AFoxNamedSunshine
2 years ago
Is "cub" art allowed?
I know that EDIT:"UNDERAGE HUMAN CHARACTERS" isn't allowed here, but is furry cub scat allowed?
Its_josh
2 years ago
I believe that its not allowed
Charysm
2 years ago
Implied kids animal or not i say no
BlackAndWhiteKat
2 years ago
The rule applies to all (visually) underage characters. So no cub allowd either sorry.

As usual, we don't care about whatever a wiki or cannon says, we go by how the character in the image looks on an image by image basis
SolarFoxProfession
2 years ago
I didn't think it mattered because they're animals characters, and thus the term "underage" doesn't really apply to them... Either way, thanks for telling me.
BlackAndWhiteKat
2 years ago
SolarFoxProfession said:
I didn't think it would matter because they're animals.


In an ideal world it wouldn't matter. But we're unfortunately based in a country where it does, and thus we are bound to the laws of our host.
Kunstsammler
2 years ago
no you fucking retard
of course we don't want fucking animal children
Charysm
2 years ago
[quote]Kunstsammler said:
no you fucking retard
Exactly what he said
AFoxNamedSunshine
2 years ago
Kunstsammler said:
no you fucking retard
of course we don't want fucking animal children


No need to be so hostile, asshole. I was just asking a fucking question... And I'm sure there's plenty of people who DO want animal children. ;D
AFoxNamedSunshine
2 years ago
BlackAndWhiteKat said:
SolarFoxProfession said:
I didn't think it would matter because they're animals.


In an ideal world it wouldn't matter. But we're unfortunately based in a country where it does, and thus we are bound to the laws of our host.


And what laws define non-human animals characters as children?
BlackAndWhiteKat
2 years ago
AFoxNamedSunshine said:
And I'm sure there's plenty of people who DO want animal children. ;D


There are, and yet we don't get a say in the matter. We can't host underage drawings because it isn't allowed in the country the admins live in, or the country we host from.

AFoxNamedSunshine said:
And what laws define non-human animals characters as children?


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leg...nography_depicting_minors

Cub usually doesn't get a legal exception, and definitely doesn't in our host country.

Its just not something we can host, even if we wanted to. We're sorry, go to e621 if you want cub scat, they allow it. Inkbunny probably does to. And chan.sankakucomplex.com aswell.
Zcat
2 years ago
once again the cub crowd trying to snake in their "exceptions" as law hinders people who rather drawings than reality.
unlike the csam-carrying pedos from IRL, you're in it with us.
AFoxNamedSunshine
2 years ago
Zcat said:
once again the cub crowd trying to snake in their "exceptions" as law hinders people who rather drawings than reality.
unlike the csam-carrying pedos from IRL, you're in it with us.


Um, I'm sorry, but what?
AFoxNamedSunshine
2 years ago
BlackAndWhiteKat said:
AFoxNamedSunshine said:
And I'm sure there's plenty of people who DO want animal children. ;D


There are, and yet we don't get a say in the matter. We can't host underage drawings because it isn't allowed in the country the admins live in, or the country we host from.

AFoxNamedSunshine said:
And what laws define non-human animals characters as children?


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leg...nography_depicting_minors

Cub usually doesn't get a legal exception, and definitely doesn't in our host country.

Its just not something we can host, even if we wanted to. We're sorry, go to e621 if you want cub scat, they allow it. Inkbunny probably does to. And chan.sankakucomplex.com aswell.


They're not "minors" is they're not human beings. Prove me wrong.
BlackAndWhiteKat
2 years ago
AFoxNamedSunshine said:
BlackAndWhiteKat said:
AFoxNamedSunshine said:
And I'm sure there's plenty of people who DO want animal children. ;D


There are, and yet we don't get a say in the matter. We can't host underage drawings because it isn't allowed in the country the admins live in, or the country we host from.

AFoxNamedSunshine said:
And what laws define non-human animals characters as children?


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leg...nography_depicting_minors

Cub usually doesn't get a legal exception, and definitely doesn't in our host country.

Its just not something we can host, even if we wanted to. We're sorry, go to e621 if you want cub scat, they allow it. Inkbunny probably does to. And chan.sankakucomplex.com aswell.


They're not "minors" is they're not human beings. Prove me wrong.


We arn't going to risk having the site shut down and being arrested over this shit. We barely have enouth money to host the site, let alone fight aganst the british courts.
Feel free to do so for us if you have the funding and legal power to do so tho.

OR

just use e6 and sankaku for your cunny fix
AFoxNamedSunshine
2 years ago
BlackAndWhiteKat said:
We arn't going to risk having the site shut down and being arrested over this shit. We barely have enouth money to host the site, let alone fight aganst the british courts.
Feel free to do so for us if you have the funding and legal power to do so tho.

OR

just use e6 and sankaku for your cunny fix


Sure! I will gladly give it a whirl. Anything to show them that animal characters are not human beings and thus, shouldn't be treated as such.
BlackAndWhiteKat
2 years ago

AFoxNamedSunshine said:


Sure! I will gladly give it a whirl. Anything to show them that animal characters are not human beings and thus, shouldn't be treated as such.


Your preaching to the choir dude. its not a law that's going to see change any time soon.
AFoxNamedSunshine
2 years ago


If I explain to them that animals are not humans, then they will change it. We live in 2021, not 1821...


BlackAndWhiteKat
2 years ago
AFoxNamedSunshine said:

If I explain to them that animals are not humans, then they will change it. We live in 2021, not 1821...



Please do. Report back with your results. I'm sure the Uk government is completely and logical and will see reason.
Zcat
almost 2 years ago
AFoxNamedSunshine said:
Zcat said:
once again the cub crowd trying to snake in their "exceptions" as law hinders people who rather drawings than reality.
unlike the csam-carrying pedos from IRL, you're in it with us.


Um, I'm sorry, but what?

Good luck convincing the same people that banned loli/shota porn to protect the furry/zoo version of it while keeping the latter banned, really.
Hope you have money and went to law school to challenge the damn govt. to flex your hypocrisy on everybody else.
BlackAndWhiteKat
almost 2 years ago
Zcat said:
Good luck convincing the same people that banned loli/shota porn to protect the furry/zoo version of it while keeping the latter banned, really.
Hope you have money and went to law school to challenge the damn govt. to flex your hypocrisy on everybody else.


Worth noting its usually not worth kicking the bees nest with shit like this tbh.
Try to get cub legalized, and there's a chance the gov will become aware of what it is, and try to class regular furry stuff as beasteality or something.
Same reason no one wants to challenge the current knife laws, for fear of making them worse.
Zcat
almost 2 years ago
BlackAndWhiteKat said:
Zcat said:
Good luck convincing the same people that banned loli/shota porn to protect the furry/zoo version of it while keeping the latter banned, really.
Hope you have money and went to law school to challenge the damn govt. to flex your hypocrisy on everybody else.


Worth noting its usually not worth kicking the bees nest with shit like this tbh.
Try to get cub legalized, and there's a chance the gov will become aware of what it is, and try to class regular furry stuff as beasteality or something.
Same reason no one wants to challenge the current knife laws, for fear of making them worse.

EXACTLY
Kunstsammler
almost 2 years ago
I hate to bring this up again, but I think it's important this is stated for the record. The site doesn't permit underage content (animal or otherwise) not because it's illegal in the UK, but because it's illegal in most technologically advanced countries, especially, oh I dunno, the US, which is our main userbase. It's not out of some vendetta against furries or anything, it's because our site is intended to be accessible as possible. It's meant to be a safe haven, not a crime hotspot.
I apologise for being so hostile about it though. Was just having a bad day.
Zcat
almost 2 years ago
Kunstsammler said:
especially, oh I dunno, the US, which is our main userbase.

Gonna have to disagree with that bit, the Supreme Court actually ruled that fictional lolisho isn't CSAM, so it can't be made illegal content. However it's still gray legal area, so places can still just forbade whenever they want to, just that it's not outlawed. This also applies to cub even bestiality art as well.

However, this doesn't dismiss the fact some other countries (advanced or not) have it ban, so be porn generally or lolisho generally. Paheal already gone through this shit for decades now, so it's not something worth to deal with, unless your traffic is mostly the US and Asian countries.

Also, I hope you're doing better at the moment, sorry to hear Kunst.


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